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GREENWOOD METROPOLITAN DISTRICT

MINUTES OF THE February 28, 2007

Regular Meeting

 

The regular meeting of the Greenwood Metropolitan District Commission was held Wednesday, February 28, 2007 at 3:00 p.m., in the Board Room of CPW - Greenwood Metropolitan District Administrative Office, 121 West Court Avenue.

 

In attendance:

                    Gene Hancock                         George Martin              Richard Gentry

                     Bob Haynie                             Roy Hemphill                Darrel Lanfond

                     Michael G. Monaghan             Paige Holley                 Wade Harter

                     Byron Smith                            Marsha Meyer              Kimberly Roberts

                     Henry Watts                            Steve Reeves               Dan McNamara

                     Richard Coleman                     Carlos Cometto

 

 

  1. Chairman Haynie called the meeting to order and George Martin gave the invocation.

 

  1. Chairman Haynie gave the statement of compliance with the notification provision of the Freedom of Information Act.

 

  1. Bids for a Large Format Printer

Bidder                                                  Amount

Duncan Parnell                         $14,999.00

Kearns Business Solutions                    $11,389.00

Lanier                                                   $15,385.36

Metro Blueprint & Supply Corp.           $18,995.00

TPM                                                    $16,496.00

 

Staff will review the bids to assure compliance with the specifications.  If the bid is in compliance, the bid will be awarded to the apparent low bidder, Kearns Business Solutions, at the next Board Meeting.

 

IV.  Request from Wade Harter of Greenwood Mills to address the Board

a.       Mr. Harter stated he came here to address the Board on the new Basic Facility Charge.  He had spoken earlier to Richard Coleman and Brian Waldrep regarding this issue.  Mr. Harter stated that he did not receive a letter informing him of the new rates.  Both the Mathews and Harris plants have a 6 inch meter.  Therefore the Basic Facility Charge went from $8.45 to $400 per month at these plants.  Mr. Harter stated with the current rates the bill has increased $391.55 before any billable flow is charged.  Historically, Harris and Mathews Mills have used more water than what they are presently using.  Mr. Harter stated that both mills have sewer meters that measure their flow.  The sewer meters shows what is discharged into the sewer system; the water meters shows what comes into the plant.  Mr. Harter stated that this is a 38% increase at the Mathews Plant and a 32% increase at the Harris Plant.  He asked if there could be special consideration giving by not increasing the Basic Facility Charge.  Chairman Haynie stated that Metro made a structural change to the rate system and the objective was to make sure the rate system was revenue neutral.  Manager Coleman stated that the new rates would affect customers with relatively larger meters and a relatively smaller water usage.  This was discussed during the consideration of the new rates.  Chairman Haynie stated that if Greenwood Mills did not need that amount of water they may want to install a smaller water meter.  He stated that the rate system has to be uniform.  Commissioner Monaghan explained that a retiree in the mill village should not have to pay the same Basic Facility Charge as an industry.  He also stated that a retiree in the mill village was paying $8 and an apartment complex was paying $8.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that Metro is doing the same thing as CPW; there is a basic charge based on the meter size.  Chairman Haynie stated that Metro cannot make exceptions to the rate system because you lose the neutrality of the system that the rates system intended.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that the Basic Facility Charge is a part of deferring Metro’s overhead cost.  The volumetric charge is different from the Basic Facility Charge.  Mr. Harter asked if the charges should be based on the sewer meter instead of the water meter.  Commissioner Hancock stated that the sewer meter does not give a true cost.  Mr. Harter asked if they could pay based on the discharge and not based on the meter size.  Manager Coleman responded that is the volumetric charge.  Chairman Haynie thanked Mr. Harter for his comments and Metro would work with him but they could not revise the rate system.

 

V.     Wilson Creek Update

a.       Manager Coleman referenced an email that was sent regarding a proposed change order.  The change order is to install an extra 160 feet of 42” ductile iron pipe at the cost of $58,306.  Manager Coleman stated the pipe is being extended as a part of phase 1A; it was estimated that if we waited until phase 1B it may cost as much as $100,000.  Mr. Richard Gentry reminded the Board that last year Metro applied for a congressional appropriations grant for the plant upgrade and Metro has reapplied this year.  A copy of the grant application was provided to the Board. 

 

Commissioner Hancock made a motion to approve the change order #8 for the Wilson Creek Plant upgrade in the amount of $58,306; Commissioner Watts seconded.  The motion was unanimously approved.

 

VI.                         Commissioner Hancock made a motion that the minutes from the February 7, 2007 Regular Meeting be approved as mailed and Commissioner Watts seconded.  The motion was unanimously approved.

 

  1. Financial Report

    1. Chairman Haynie asked for questions from the Board on the Financial Report.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that he would submit his questions to Gayle in writing.  Commissioner Watts inquired about the status of the Lakeshores Project Phase 1 & 2.  Mr. Martin responded that Phase 1 and 2 are complete.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if more work that needs to be completed on the Lakeshores Project.  Mr. Martin responded that the pump station on Phase 3 is in the final stages of being completed.  Manager Coleman stated that the information provided on the financial statements reflect when the payments are actually made which lags behind the completion of the work.  Commissioner Monaghan inquired about the proposed condo being built in the Cochran Bridge area of the lake.  Mr. Martin responded that three condos have already been built.

 

  1. Service Reports

    1. West Alexander

Manager Coleman provided an update to the Board regarding the toxicity issue at West Alexander.  Silver is most likely causing the problem.  A toxicity identification evaluation was performed.  In this process you take the sample that was toxic and perform tests to either eliminate or include different groups of metals.  The detection limit for silver is ten parts per billion.  The water fleas that we tested could be toxicity at one tenth part per billion; which is 100 times less than the detection limit.  Manager Coleman explained how labs detect silver at a lower than detection limit.  He stated that Metro is doing more sampling and testing.  The simplest way to resolve the problem is to find it and eliminate it from the source (i.e. someone who is discharging it).  A bi-product of sulfur dioxide is that it would remove some silver.  Since the switch over to ultraviolet lights, we no longer use sulfur dioxide at West Alexander.  Chairman Haynie asked if the sulfur dioxide removes the silver or masks it.  Manager Coleman said it removes it.  Commissioner Watts stated that since West Alexander has started using ultraviolet lights, the toxicity test shows a detection of silver.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that he understood that this was killing the water fleas.  Manager Coleman responded that we are measuring the discharge and its toxicity to what is in the stream.  Mr. Martin said that it did kill some water fleas.  Manager Coleman reminded the Board that sulfur dioxide is not the answer because a problem with sulfur dioxide was the reason we had a toxicity problem at Wilson Creek a few months ago.  Commissioner Hancock asked if DHEC could fine us even though we cannot find the problem.  Manager Coleman responded that DHEC can fine Metro.  Commissioner Monaghan inquired as to where the silver is coming from.  Manager Coleman responded that the hospital and other photo labs have a self contain unit so there is no discharge.  Mr. Martin stated that Metro is sampling the lines.

 

IX.  Discussion of Sewer Service Line Issues

a.       Mr. Reeves stated the reason he was present at the meeting was to ask the Board for consideration of either a change in our policy or a variance on a policy.  CPW is about to engage in a major water line upgrade (The East Cambridge Project).  Mr. Reeves stated that the streets are very tight and there is not a lot of working space.  He believes CPW will encounter a lot of clay or orangeburg service line pipes.  CPW held a pre-bid conference last week and the main question the contractors have is what are they to do about the sewer service when the line is cut.  At the meeting Metro informed the contractors that the service lines were privately own and they could not be located.  Since the pre-bid meeting another meeting has been held with Metro and a consensus from the meeting was that Metro does own the taps under the public right-of-way.  CPW was also informed by Metro that ductile iron pipe is to be used in the repair.  CPW is asking Metro to give a variance to allow PVC pipe instead of ductile iron to be used for repairs.  CPW was also told that all service repairs would have to be made by the same methodology or same specifications as a main line repair as stated in the design manual.  Mr. Reeves stated that one page from the manual states there has to be eight inches of stone below, beside and above the pipe.  CPW’s request is to be able to use PVC pipe for repairs, fernco couplings, put in concrete blocking around the couplings, and to stabilize with stone as needed.  CPW will need to send an addendum to the contractors tomorrow so they can bid next week.  They need to know the specifics required before they can bid.  Mr. Reeves stated that he has checked with other sewer entities and Metro seems to have a unique method of repair.  Commissioner Hancock stated that next year CPW will have a grant for Mathews and it will be just as congested.  Chairman Haynie stated that he assumed staff had already discussed the issue.  Commissioner Watts and Commissioner Monaghan both stated that they would like to hear from Richard and George on the issue.  Manger Coleman responded that the issue of location is there is no way to trace it.  He also stated that Metro knows where the taps are made and assumes they go out at a ninety degree angle.  Metro has agreed to mark the taps as accurately as can be.  If Metro marks it within the width of the pipe plus two and a half feet on each side and if the contractor breaks it, the contractor will have to repair it at their cost.  If the contractor breaks a line that is not marked, it is Metro’s responsibility to repair it.  Metro has not received grant money to pay for this.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that only part of the project will be paid by grant money the rest will be paid by CPW.  Manager Coleman stated that Mr. Reeves said that if there is any money left over, Metro can apply for it.  Mr. Martin stated that when you are on the cutting edge with specifications, not everyone is where you are.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that he understands from Mr. Cometto that some of these pipes are so fragile that working around them might cause them to break.  Mr. Martin thinks that Metro should allow a variance in this case.  Metro asks that the couplings are put on virgin soil and supported.  Mr. Martin commented that at the end of the day Metro can pay the money now to have the lines installed correctly or Metro can spend $150 million to repair what was not done right before.  Commissioner Monaghan stated you have to look at the cost benefit.  Mr. Martin asked how long do you want the sewer system to last and he thinks it should last a hundred years.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if fifty or sixty years is acceptable.  Mr. Martin asked what is acceptable to the rate payers.  Commissioner Monaghan reiterated that that is the question.  Chairman Haynie asked if Metro needs to grant a waiver or change the design manual.  Mr. Martin stated that we are looking at the design manual and not just the service line issue.  Mr. Cometto stated that there is no detail for a service line repair and the answer we received from Metro was to fix it like it was a repair for an existing line.  Mr. Martin also stated that the City and the County have a different set of regulations than Metro.  The City and County use the international plumbing codes which are very generic.  Metro has their own system that they have spent years putting together.  Mr. Martin stated that it is not fair to the citizens of Greenwood, the contractors and the users to have two sets of rules; there should be only one set.  Commissioner Hancock stated that State law dictated that the Cities and Counties adopt the international codes.  Mr. Martin remarked that it did not say you cannot adopt anything else; that is the minimum.  Commissioner Hancock stated that the international codes are not the minimum now, if you were to follow the international codes all utilities would go broke.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that everyone needs to be careful, logical and political.  Mr. Martin expressed the need to have a common agreement between all parties involved.  Commissioner Watts inquired if Metro is working on that.  Commissioner Monaghan added that everyone needs to be aware of what is doable and what is not doable and what the system can stand.  Chairman Haynie asked for a recommendation from staff regarding CPW’s request.  Manager Coleman responded that Metro should allow a variance on this.  Commissioner Hancock stated that some of this is above staff level.  He also stated that the County and City are doing inspections.  Mr. Martin commented that this is a different issue.  Manager Coleman reported that a meeting with the City and County has been scheduled.  Mr. Martin informed the Board that Metro and the City and County are to meet Monday, March 5, 2007 at 10 o’clock.  He also stated that they are working toward resolving the issues.  Commissioner Monaghan stressed that a cost benefit analysis is needed on anything you do.  Mr. Martin asked if it should be a total cost analysis not if is cheaper to put the line in now and in 5 years Metro has to fix the line again.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that five years is not reasonable nor is 100 years; maybe sixty years.  Mr. Martin responded that that is where the balance needs to be.  Manager Coleman expressed that it is cheaper to put it in by the contractor one way, but if Metro has to go back and fix the line in 5, 10, or 15 years and it could have lasted longer for 5% or 10% more upfront cost.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that all he is saying is Metro needs to keep their eyes on it and keep reviewing it to make sure Metro is doing the best.  Mr. Martin stated that the Board approved the design manual.  Mr. Reeves commented that CPW is about to install a big sewer project and they are paying about 60% more.  Manager Coleman responded that Metro reviewed the design manual with local contractors and could only identify 10% to 20% more cost.  Mr. Reeves stated that the same sewer lines can be installed in other areas (Lexington and Columbia) for less than half of the cost that it is in Greenwood.  Mr. Martin responded that Lexington has not provided Metro with their specifications.  Manger Coleman stated that he believes it goes back to when Metro started inspecting the sewer.  The contractors were not properly installing the sewer according to the written regulations and that is why it was done cheaper.  Metro did not make that many changes.  Mr. Martin stated that the TV camera shows if the lines are installed properly.  Chairman Haynie inquired as to what action the Board wanted to take on this matter.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that the Board should agree to what variance that Mr. Martin recommends.  Mr. Martin stated that a detail drawing should be provided on the variance.  Commissioner Hancock recommended having a consultant review the design manual.  Mr. Martin responded that Metro could get a VE team to review the manual.  Commissioner Monaghan agreed with Commissioner Hancock. 

 

Commissioner Watts made a motion to allow a variance to CPW regarding the service line issue (to use PVC pipe for repairs, fernco couplings, put in concrete blocking around the couplings, and to stabilize with stone as needed; the couplings are to be put on virgin soil) for CPW’s East Cambridge Project; Commissioner Hancock seconded, and the motion was unanimously approved.

 

b.      Commissioner Monaghan remarked that this will be a constant battle.  Mr. Martin stated Metro is trying to resolve this issue.  Metro approached the County and City regarding this issue; they did not approach Metro.  Commissioner Hancock stated that he thinks the Board has backslid concerning the service line issue in public right-of-way.  He stated that as a public entity we are responsible for public right-of-way.  Mr. Martin responded that this was not true.  He also stated that Metro is responsible to locate it if it is in the public right-of-way.  Commissioner Monaghan reminded the Board that Metro is responsible only if the sewer line is under pavement.  Mr. Martin stated that on November 20, 2003, the Board voted to fix everything in the public right-of-way.  He also stated that on August 26, 2004, the Board voted to repair sewer service lines under paved areas owned by the State, County or City including sidewalks and roadways.  Commissioner Hancock asked if each individual tenant would be responsible for what is coming into Metro’s line.  Mr. Martin explained that Metro’s responsibility as a public entity is to locate our lines.  Metro has to mark the lines in a way that is acceptable.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that CPW was told that Metro could not locate the lines.  Mr. Martin responded that was wrong.  Commissioner Watts inquired as to where Metro’s lines start.  Mr. Martin responded that from the tap out to the house is considered a service line.  He reminded the Board that they had agreed to repair the line if it had structural damage under paved areas.  Commissioner Monaghan added that Metro did not say owned by the State or the City.  Mr. Martin explained that the area had to be publicly owned.  Commissioner Watts asked for a definition of the term structural damage.  Mr. Martin responded that it means crushed pipe.  Commissioner Monaghan asked how root problems are handled.  Mr. Martin responded that Metro will not repair them; they can be repaired without digging up the road.  Commissioner Watts inquired as to who is responsible for fixing root problems.  Mr. Martin stated the plumber can fix the problem if there are roots in the service lines. 

 

X.                             Commissioner Monaghan asked why Metro was not a member of the Palmetto Utility Protection Service (PUPS).  Mr. Martin responded that he did not know.  Metro locates lines, but we are not apart of the PUPS system.  Mr. Reeves stated that Metro receives a call from the individual contractor not from PUPS.  Commissioner Monaghan asked what are the advantages and/or disadvantages to being a member of PUPS.  Mr. Martin stated that the disadvantage is you get every call for every utility.  Mr. Reeves stated that PUPS goes through a one call system.  He also stated that CPW does not receive a call from a contractor to locate line; they get a call from PUPS.  Mr. Martin stated that Metro receives calls from the contractor.  Chairman Haynie directed the staff to look into PUPS and to see if this is something that Metro may want to consider.

 

XI.  Value of the GMD Portion of the Administration Building

a.       Chairman Haynie stated that he understood Metro had a meeting today with staff regarding the building.

 

XII.                        Request to form a Softball Team

a.       All Commissioners were in agreement for Metro to have a softball team.  Chairman Haynie directed staff to include the softball team in the budget ($380 payable to the County plus tee shirts) for fiscal year 2007 – 2008.

 

XIII.                     Commissioner Hancock made a motion to go into Executive Session to discuss a contractual matter; Commissioner Smith seconded, and the motion was unanimously approved. 

 

XIV.                     The meeting returned to open session.  No action was taken during executive session.

 

  1. With no further business, the meeting was adjourned.

 

 

 
 

 

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