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GREENWOOD METROPOLITAN DISTRICT

MINUTES OF THE November 29, 2006

Rate consultant Meeting

 

The regular meeting of the Greenwood Metropolitan Commission was held Wednesday, November 29, 2006 at 1:00 p.m., in the Board Room of CPW-Greenwood Metropolitan District Administration Building, 121 West Court Avenue.

 

        In attendance:

                              Bob Haynie                              Richard Coleman

                              Gene Hancock                         George Martin

                              Michael G. Monaghan              Gayle Grogan

                              Byron Smith                             Daryll Parker

                              Henry Watts

 

  1. Chairman Haynie called the meeting to order.

 

  1. Chairman Haynie gave the statement of compliance with the notification provision of the Freedom of Information Act.

 

  1. Rate Structure

    1. Mr. Parker stated the purpose of the meeting is to determine which direction the Board would like to take in regard to the rates and rate structure.  Chairman Haynie stated that the Board had some specific questions from the previous meeting that Mr. Parker had addressed.  Commissioner Monaghan would like to discuss the graph that was included in the board packets.  Mr. Parker said that some of the questions were answers based on his interpretation of what was asked.  The first question was should the volume rate difference between residential and commercial recognize the type of commercial discharge.  The answer Mr. Parker provided to the Board was for industrial customers Metro has an industrial surcharge already in place that takes care of those customers that have excessive loading on the system.  The general commercial class (offices, retail stores, etc.), that discharge into the system is not significantly different than a residential house.  Mr. Parker does not recommend that Metro set a different volumetric rate for commercial customers at this point.  Unless there was something that indicated that our commercial base was significantly different than most other typical systems and significantly different discharge wise than your residential base.  Commissioner Monaghan asked about funeral homes.  Mr. Parker said when they are working on rates they do not design them for a specific customer.  In situations like that they hope that the place has facilities in place to deal with the discharge.  Manager Coleman said a contaminate that is prohibitive to the treatment process is not allowed to be discharged into our system.  For example oil from an oil change business is not allowed to be discharged into our system.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if Metro monitors that.  Manager Coleman said that Metro does not spot check everybody, but if we see evidence downstream we will investigate.  Commissioner Hancock said that the State does regulates the oil and the containers that the oil is stored in.  Manager Coleman said that even industries where surcharge for high strength (BOD, Suspended Solids or Oil and Grease) have a requirement where they have to pretreat it down to domestic levels if we can’t treat the higher levels..  The only reason we have a surcharge is so Metro can handle a little bit higher mass loading and charge the industry an extra charge for the higher strength.  Commissioner Hancock said Metro has extra cost on grease traps.  Manager Coleman said that Metro does monitor the grease traps.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if they differentiate when assessing an impact fee to take into consideration different types of discharges.  Mr. Parker said it depends on how your impact fees are applied.  DHEC has an established standard of what they consider the impact of different types of business and establishments as compared to residential.  DHEC standards are based on capacity needs.  Manager Coleman said DHEC has a standard for volume and mass.  Metro does not calculate volume and mass.  Should we have an industry that has a higher mass than normal, we do not have a specific availability charge, but it will go back to the residential equivalent unit which comes back to the volume basis.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if you would increase the REU because of the mass.  Manager Coleman said it does look at both the mass and volumetric loading and the calculations are based on the volumetric side.  The requirement is if the mass is more than normal you have to pretreat the mass load down to domestic strength.  Higher mass load can be handled if it is biodegradable.  If it is not, you have limitations on that.  Metro cannot charge enough surcharge to treat the metals, we just have to control them.  Commissioner Hancock asked if any other sewer agency has different categories for commercial as far as regular commercial and a mom and pop commercial store.  Mr. Parker said you may see that on the impact fees, but usually not on the user rates.  Commissioner Hancock asked if you could have different rates for a sub-division and a housing project and/or apartment complexes.  Mr. Parker said that you could.  You can have it based on meter basis or per dwelling unit basis.  Our current way is charging everybody the same minimum basic charge.  Mr. Parker said he would like for us to use either the meter basis or the dwelling unit basis for the apartment complexes.  Commissioner Hancock asked if we could have apartments on a per unit basis as a customer group.  Mr. Parker said Metro can do that and we will discuss the pros and cons for each.  Commissioner Monaghan stated the next question is the standardized criteria for the AWWA.  Mr. Parker said that was correct.  The AWWA factors, from an engineering standpoint did test on meters and assumed on a 5/8 meter you can put “X” amount of water through the meter at a given level of water pressure.  The AWWA has done the same thing for different meter sizes.  For a 1 inch meter the amount is 2 ½ times the amount from a 5/8 inch meter.  The standardized criteria are based on the physical constraints and abilities of the water meters.  When we are talking about meter based rates, it is reasonable to refer to the AWWA equivalencies as a basis for setting the meter base rates.  You will typically find that you fall within the range from AWWA even based on actual usage.  Commissioner Monaghan wanted to know how much trouble and/or work will it take to redefine the equivalency.  Mr. Parker said he has one client that does that every year.  Their base charge is based on the actual flow for every individual meter.  The actual math for doing the change does not take long, but once you put that in place you may have a lot of phone calls concerning the change each year.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if you have a multi-family customer class and just did the change within that class would that be easier.  Mr. Parker said with the multi-family customer class he feels that if Metro is setting the user rates for everybody else based on AWWA he would apply that same methodology to the multi-family class if it will be a meter basis.  The only other option is a dwelling unit basis.  Mr. Parker feels that Metro should choose just one structure.  Mr. Parker does not recommend having one type or class of customers on a different structure than the rest of the customers.  Commissioner Monaghan wanted to know why you could not do both ways.  Mr. Parker said the commercial is a separate class from the residential, but they would still get the same rates.  Mr. Parker said we want to have one set of rates with the same equivalencies.  If you are going to have meter based rates, you want to have the same equivalency for everybody regardless of what customer class they are in; that is fair regardless of what type of customer you are.  If you want to have the multi-family complex on a dwelling unit basis opposed to meter basis that is fine.  Mr. Parker said Metro can do either basis, but if we chose the meter basis we need to do it the same as everybody else.  A 2 inch meter will pay the same no matter if they are residential or a commercial customer.  Chairman Haynie said that was defensible if we have everybody on a meter basis and we do multi-family on per unit that is defensible.  Mr. Parker said sure, but Metro is going to have some administrative difficulties.  The primary negative that Mr. Parker sees about going to a dwelling unit billing basis for Metro is that we do not do our own billing.  Mr. Parker feels that CPW could handle it, but Metro is relying on CPW to let us know how many dwelling units are on each meter.  The question is who will be keeping tabs.  The meter readers will not look for that on the water side because that is not the way CPW deals with it.  You could have questions from customers wanting to know why their water bill is based on meter size, but their sewer bill is based on dwelling units.  Commissioner Monaghan wanted to know what is wrong with taking all of the multi-family with 2 inch meter (for example) and we have the information that says how many dwelling units for a 2 inch meter to come up with an average number to use instead of using the AWWA equivalency.  Mathematically Metro can do that, but Mr. Parker would not propose it.  If you are going to deal with the multi-family differently than everybody else, then do them on a dwelling unit basis not on a meter basis.  You would be setting up two sets of rates at that point.  You really do not want to set up two sets of rates a meter basis for residential, commercial and industrial and then a meter basis for multi-family just with different equivalency.  One reason is they will probably change each year.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if it would be easier to administer that than by the individual dwelling unit.  Mr. Parker said it may, but there is no equity in that.  If you are going to do your entire billing on a meter basis, then do everybody at the same meter equivalencies.  We should not use AWWA for residential, commercial and industrial and then a different meter equivalency for multi-family.  If you are going to treat the multi-family different, treat them all as the smallest meter.  Commissioner Hancock said the biggest difference in the multi-family is maintenance of the system; they have been left out on maintaining the system.  Manager Coleman said there are two components to the bill, the minimum charge and the volumetric charge.  You do not get all of your money from the minimum charge.  It is a combination of the minimum charge and volumetric charge.  Commissioner Hancock said that when Metro used to charge the CMOM fee everybody paid $8 per month on single families, but the apartments were only paying one $8 fee.  Manager Coleman said the CMOM fee was a per meter basis.  Some apartments had individual meters.  Most of the new apartments have individual meters.  Commissioner Hancock said that if we did the rates by pipe size and volume of water could the unit not have a fixed charge on maintenance on the system.  We are talking about getting away from where everybody is paying the same amount regardless of your meter size.  If we are going to go to a meter basis for them for example a 3 inch meter with 100 units they are not going to pay the $9.21; they are going to pay $128 plus usage.  The other option is to have all of the units pay $8 each.  If we compare the meter basis for all multi-family customers and collect the basis charge based on meter size compared to a dwelling unit basis, there is not that much of a revenue difference.  Commissioner Monaghan asked what is the revenue difference between commercial on AWWA factors and the multi-family based on residential units.  Mr. Parker said he did not look at the revenue basis; he did a comparison for individual customers.  Manager Coleman said for any given meter size for multi-family units you still have a large range of numbers of units behind the meter.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if we could have taken all of the residential units in the multi-family class and multiply the number times $8; then take the revenue we would have received based on meter rate and find out what the difference is.  Manager Coleman said we had that number.  Mr. Parker said he did it for the entire system and that is part of what is included in the study.  Presently we are proposing a different rate that will generate the same revenue under different rate structures.  Commissioner Monaghan said he wants to know the difference between doing it residential units and proposed meter basis for the multi-family units.  Mr. Parker said that information is included in the study.  The difference between doing a meter based charge for the multi-family versus dwelling unit basis is $152,000 per year.  It is less than 2 % of the total revenue.  Commissioner Monaghan said we could go with that for a few years to see if it works.  From an equity standpoint, it is about break even.  From a revenue standpoint we are not looking at that much money.  We are assuming that either basis from a billing system standpoint can be done.  Commissioner Monaghan said that he would suggest going with the meter basis.  Chairman Haynie said he believes in going with the simpler method.  Mr. Parker said that as our consultant he recommends that we try to keep our billing method on the sewer side the same as what CPW is doing on the water side.  Commissioner Watts asked when Metro has new multi-family units if we knew what size meter they have.  Manager Coleman said yes.  Commissioner Watts asked do we know if they are master metered or individual meters.  Manager Coleman said we know that.  Commissioner Smith asked if we are seeing more individual meters.  Manager Coleman said yes.  From an apartment developer standpoint, they want the customers to be responsible for the individual bills and not have a master meter as part of the rent.  Commissioner Watts asked if CPW could require single meters.  Commissioner Hancock said that CPW could.  Mr. Martin said New Haven Apartments would be a good example if they were all on single meters opposed to master meter.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if we have an apartment complex with 50 units and then they add 25 more units does Metro charge another impact fee.  Commissioner Hancock said yes.  Commissioner Monaghan said what do we do when a single family home adds on; do we charge another impact fee.  Manager Coleman said only if they make a new tap.  Metro does not size individual houses like we do apartments.  Mr. Martin said a two bedroom apartment is 300 gallons and a house is 400 gallons.  Commissioner Monaghan wanted to know if Mr. Parker looked at increasing Metro’s impact fee when doing the rate study.  Mr. Parker said that was talked about but it was not a part of this study.  If they were going to do an impact fee study, they would try to set it up on a meter basis.  Manager Coleman said we use the same methodology, but it may need to be updated once we have the cost of updating Wilson Creek.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if we could charge a two tier impact fee; one tier to the developer and another to the homeowner.  Commissioner Hancock said we are getting some of the money back from the millage tax.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if we should look at a new impact fee.  Manager Coleman said he does not think we should slow down the rate change just to wait on the availability charge amount.  The rate change needs to go ahead and get done; we said we would do it at the first of the year, the middle of our fiscal year.  Chairman Haynie said we can increase the availability fee anytime the Board chooses.  Chairman Haynie asked what does it cost per REU right now.  Manager Coleman said it costs $2500 per REU.  Mr. Parker said that is the calculated amount.  Commissioner Monaghan said we only charge $500.  Mr. Martin said we also charge $350 for a tap fee so $850 all together.  Mr. Parker said the tap fee is a recovery of operating expenses.  Manager Coleman said he does not think we should wait for an availability study to change the rates.  Commissioner Monaghan said that we already know it will cost Metro $2500; why do we need to pay Mr. Parker $20,000 to figure out we need to go up a $100.  Mr. Parker said that he agrees with that statement.    Commissioner Monaghan said he would like for the fee to be two tiers.  Manager Coleman said the fee is already two tiers.  Commissioner Monaghan said the fee is not already two tiers.  You call it a tap fee; do you want to call it an impact fee and raise the amount.  Mr. Martin said you could raise the impact fee to $600 and leave the tap fee at $350.  Commissioner Monaghan said the tap fee was $800.  Mr. Martin said the tap fee is $350.  Mr. Martin said the cost including the availability and tap fee is $850.  Commissioner Monaghan suggested raising the tap fee $100.  Chairman Haynie asked if the money from the tap fees goes to the same place as the money from the availability fee.  Manager Coleman said they go into two different accounts.  Mr. Parker said you could change the terminology; you could call the first fee a capacity fee and call the second an impact or transmission fee.  They would both be an impact fee.  Manager Coleman said one reason the tap fee was pretty well accepted was because the City had a tap fee, but when Metro started charging a fee, CPW stopped charging.  It would be easier to justify going from $500 to $600 or whatever number is chosen.  Mr. Martin said it would be easier for developers to understand if we used capacity and transmission fee.  Commissioner Monaghan said the first tier would be called capacity fee and the second tier would be called transmission fee and the total cost would be our availability charge that would go in the same account.  Manager Coleman said the availability fee is set up under different laws and we do not need to mix that account with something else.  Chairman Haynie said the tap fee now goes back to the general operating account.  Commissioner Monaghan said he is trying not to hurt development upfront.  Commissioner Hancock said that is one reason why we have kept the fee low.  Commissioner Monaghan said the developer has to pay upfront for the number of lots whether the lot is sold or not.  Manager Coleman said the developer does not typically build the house.  When the house is built is when the $350 (tap) fee is paid.  Commissioner Monaghan said they were both impact fees.  Mr. Martin said in reality they are.  Commissioner Monaghan asked why they are not both called impact fees.  Chairman Haynie said that one goes to one account and the other to a different account.  Commissioner Monaghan asked why they both don’t go to the same account.  Mr. Martin said Metro did not want the developer to be hit with all of the cost at one time.  Commissioner Monaghan said that Mr. Parker said that we could have a two tier impact fee one upfront and one later, so why can’t we do that.  Manager Coleman said Metro established an availability charge that did not have a tapping fee portion included.  When Metro established the fee there were State Laws and National Standards within different states that have been upheld in court saying that would be okay.  We then put the availability fee into a separate account and we can only spend that money on certain things.  The tap fee is put in a different account, but Metro should not put it into the same account that has restrictions on it.  Commissioner Hancock said there should be no problem if we change the terminology.  Chairman Haynie asked what was budgeted for tap fees.  Mrs. Grogan said $70,000.  Commissioner Hancock said that CPW charges the actual cost for their water tap fee.  Chairman Haynie stated the lots that they developed in Kirskey Forest they paid the availability fee and when they sold the lot to a builder, the builder paid the tap fee.  Commissioner Monaghan said Metro had to go up and rather than going up to $850 upfront it went up $500.  Commissioner Hancock said Metro did not have a tap fee to start with.  Chairman Haynie asked for a consensus from the Board.  Manager Coleman said when Hunter’s Creek was developed they had 600 lots and they paid the availability fee of $450 for all of the lots upfront and other than the inspection fees that is all Metro charged.  Hunter’s Creek sold a lot of their lots early on.  When we added the $350 tap fee all of the people had received a written sheet from the developers of Hunter’s Creek saying all your sewer tap fees have been paid, but you are to pay the developer $900 for those fees.  Hunter’s Creek included the $450 availability charge plus what it cost to install the collections system.  When Metro added the tapping fee which is $350 and people started building house; they are saying that they have already paid the fee, but originally Metro did not have a tap fee then.  Chairman Haynie said Metro needs to send them back to the developer.  Manager Coleman said that is what we are doing.  Commissioner Monaghan said that we need to at least add inflation cost each year to our charges.  Chairman Haynie said this is something that Metro needs to look at every year.  Manager Coleman suggested $600 for the capacity fee (availability fee) and $400 for the transmission fee (tap fee).  Chairman Haynie directed staff to advertise the proposed fee and the Board will take action on it after the public hearing.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if Metro has talked to Denise about the debt service.  Mrs. Grogan said that she did and she has changed her sheets.  Mrs. Grogan said that she has been reporting on a cash basis since she has been with Metro.  Denise has been reporting on an accrual basis.  Mrs. Grogan said that if the Board wants her to report each month completely on accrual basis then she will need to get a report from CPW for the accrued receivables and payables.  Commissioner Monaghan said to ask for it and if Metro cannot get the report we are to let him know.  Mrs. Grogan said that she will need to make some journal entities each month.  Mrs. Grogan spoke to Laurie at Elliott Davis and she said it will not change my report that much.  Chairman Haynie said it is not something that he would require.  Commissioner Monaghan said that he wants it reported right.  Chairman Haynie said it is not a question of it being right, but of how you want it read cash or accrual.  Commissioner Monaghan said he does not understand why cash or accrual would affect whether or not you put principle on your operation account.  Mrs. Grogan said it is not on that, this is on the receivables and payables.  Commissioner Monaghan said that he does not care about that.  Chairman Haynie said the interest would be the only expense.  Commissioner Monaghan said he is trying to see the results of our operations.  Commissioner Monaghan does not want that diluted by other factors.  Mrs. Grogan asked to be informed as to what the Board would like for her to do.  Mr. Parker said the issues that went on with the tax millage and revenues there is still going to be sufficient revenue to pay the debt service associated with those GO Bonds and there will not be any excess.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if the debt service will come out of the County account.  Manager Coleman said that is correct.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if Metro shows it on the operating account.  Manager Coleman said it will have no effect on the rates one way or the other.  Manager Coleman said the resolution that we pass says here’s how much the debt service is and the County sets the tax millage the amount is supposed to be equal.  All of the money stays with the County anyway.  An excess or deficit has no effect on the rates.  Commissioner Monaghan thought Mr. Parker’s study of what rate Metro needed and he looked at our budget, we need to cover our operating expense, and then we can tell how much we want to come out of rates for capital expenses not financed by bonds.  Mr. Parker said that is different from the tax revenue and that is what question 4 is talking about.  Commissioner Monaghan said the question he has is in the 9% how much are we going to spend from bonds and how much are we going to spend from operating.  Commissioner Hancock said that is over a time period, it is not just one year.  Chairman Haynie said there is a certain amount of capital construction that we pay.  Commissioner Hancock said there is, but we do not always do it.  Commissioner Monaghan said that is not the question; the question is Mr. Parker recommended we raise our rates 9% and he would like to know how much is to cover our budget and how much is to cover capital expenses.  Mr. Parker said they have assumed tax revenue exactly equals the payment on the debt; it is a wash.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that we are only talking about revenue bonds.  Mr. Parker said that when we went to the bond market they did not care about the GO Bonds because they know the tax revenue will be at least as much as the GO bond payments.  Chairman Haynie asked if Mr. Parker put in our rates that Metro is going to take $1 million in capital improvements a year from operating funds.  Mr. Parker said that was apart of the bond report and all of this is factored into the rate study.  They have taken the CIP and made some adjustments for inflation to get the total CIP.  That number was then broken down into funding sources.  Funding sources are the revenue bonds, any future revenue bonds, and existing proceeds from capital, unrestricted reserves and a line item for annual operating revenue.  The amount we have assumed each year is going to come from the budget averaging $550,000.  Metro has other capital that will be funded from other sources.  Manager Coleman said that the reserve will be kept relatively high like it is now.  In the future years we will pull them down.  Commissioner Monaghan said in our budget process we put in a certain amount that we are going to take out of the operating fund for capital improvement and maintenance.  Commissioner Monaghan asked how much are we taking out.  Mr. Martin said Mr. Parker said on average $550,000.  Commissioner Monaghan said that does not seem like enough.  Mr. Martin said it is not.  Mr. Parker said that is not all of the capital; that is all of the capital that will be funded from the operating budget.  The total CIP is $57 million.  Commissioner Monaghan said the 9% increase only covers budget and $550,000 worth of capital expenditures and CMOM.  Mr. Parker said it also covers new debt service and existing debt service.  Commissioner Monaghan said that he does not understand that.  Chairman Haynie said the idea is you are typically going to borrow money for the big capital projects so they calculated that interest in the rate.  Commissioner Monaghan asked how much from bonds are we spending for upgrades on sewer lines.  Manager Coleman showed Commissioner Monaghan what is coming from O&M funds, reserve bonds, reserve funds and the GO Bonds.  Commissioner Monaghan asked where does it show what is coming out of our operating funds.  Commissioner Monaghan said that our long range plans say we are going to spend $2 million a year on rehab.  Mr. Martin said correct and $2 million for trunk line extensions.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that $3.5 million is going to come from revenue bonds.  Mr. Parker said that we are going to use some of the unrestricted reserves.  Mr. Parker said not all of the funding is coming out of user rates.  Roughly $550,000 a year is coming from user rates and the rest is coming from existing reserves or other sources.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if the 9% is a break even number or are we going to put some in the reserves.  Mr. Parker said that is maintaining our reserves.  Chairman Haynie said it anticipates we are going to use the reserves for most of the capital projects.  Commissioner Monaghan said he does not want to deplete the reserves to a point where we have bond problems.  Mr. Parker said this will not.  Mr. Parker showed the Board a chart which shows the projecting operating reports.  The report shows what Metro is looking at in terms of cash balance (unrestricted).  Right now we are starting out with about $15.5 million we are going to use some and put some back.  Over the five year period we are going to end up with about $10.8 million a little bit less, but you are funding $57 million.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that if Metro starts to get some bad sewer problems in the City and mill villages; that could cost more than $2 million a year.  Manager Coleman said it came out to be $2.4 million, but we decided to do some of the rehab in house, so we lowered the cost.  Mr. Martin said the $2 million is the number we thought the traffic could bear.  Manager Coleman said that is also what we thought DHEC would look at us as being proactive.  Metro could spend $25 million for seven to eight years and get caught up.  Then the cost may drop down to $1 million.  Mr. Martin said we went 100 years without spending anything.  Mr. Parker said it is based on the analysis and what they have seen from the customer data and anticipated growth.  Chairman Haynie said that is Mr. Parker’s recommendation.  Manager Coleman said what could change it is the Wilson Creek project.  Right now the project is at $25 million, but if it goes up to say $30 million the rate could change.  Chairman Haynie stated that is just if something does not go according to plan.  Manger Coleman stated the clarifier we thought was going to be $6.1 million but they came in at $8.3 million.  If the $25 million project that was estimated at the same time as the clarifier and comes in at the same ratio it could be a $33 or $34 million project.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that he thought the report was very good and wanted to know if staff feels like they can defend the rate increase without having Mr. Parker here.  Commissioner Hancock stated that Mr. Parker should be at the public hearing.  Manager Coleman said we could have the public hearing the second week in January and make the rates effect February 1st.  Commissioner Hancock asked for Manager Coleman to explain how this is going to work over at the County on ad valorem.  Manager Coleman said this year is zero ad valorem tax.  The money that is already collected will pay this year’s bond indebtedness for 2007.  It will also pay for the bond issue that we just issued.  Going forward it will have to cover exactly what the principle and interest is, which will put it back in the 7 or 8 mills range.  Commissioner Hancock said the County will put the assess value based on their formula, so the possibility is you are going to over collect again.  State law says we can use those funds.  Commissioner Monaghan said that is the rational for GO Bond issue, because the County attorney would not let us use our own funds.  Commissioner Hancock said that Metro’s attorney and the County’s attorney need to get together so this will not occur again.  Manager Coleman said in theory the County collects 3% or 5% more; they calculate it with a cushion.  In theory if they collected 100% and you counted on 95%, the next year the reserve can be taken into account.  Commissioner Hancock said that is what they base it on to start with.  Manager Coleman said that if you under collect you have to make it up the following year.  Chairman Haynie said that Mr. Hemphill said that Metro could challenge that, but we just did not have time to do that this year.  Commissioner Monaghan summarized that Metro will go up $100 on the availability fee from $500 to $600 and on the transmission fee from $350 to $400.  Chairman Haynie stated that Metro is going to rename the fees.  Manager Coleman said the basic rate will go with the meter equivalency and zero usage.  Commissioner Monaghan stated that the residential user will get a cut.  Mr. Parker said they do.  Mr. Parker showed the Board a chart showing the residential customer class on 5/8 inch meter and their flow and the proposed rate associated with that flow.  Commissioner Monaghan asked why the 5/8 inch meter and 1 inch meter is different.  Mr. Parker said there is a different base charge.  Commissioner Monaghan asked if both are residential.  Mr. Parker said yes.  Manager Coleman said most residential have 5/8 inch meters.  Commissioner Hancock asked how long will it take to recapture that coming down with usage.  Mr. Parker said the residential customers with a 1 inch meter or a 1½ inch meter will pay the same volumetric charge but a higher base rate due to the larger minimum based on meter size.  You really see the change with the commercial user.  Most of the commercial users have the smaller meters, but a sizable number will have the larger meters.  For a 5/8 inch commercial meter you are basically looking at the same thing as residential.  Once you get into larger meter sizes, they are going to start to see a larger impact.  These are the industrial users ….

 

 

 

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